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Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

Aug 11 @ 11:56 AM ET
Eklund: Leafs and Coyotes Discuss Chychrun Trade. (E4). Nylander?
M*A*S*H
Season Ticket Holder
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.05.2006

Aug 11 @ 12:05 PM ET
Toronto will need to anti up. Nylander is on limited term contract. Their 1st round pick will be a late rounder. They have prospects to dangle. The offer may be mega to some eyes but Toronto is a very good team and Arizona holds the cards here.

I can see it looking like
Nylander, Sandin, a 2023 1st, and 2 prospects
for Chychryn and a 2023 3rd or 4th

**No salary retention by Toronto on Nylander**
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Aug 11 @ 12:12 PM ET
Toronto will need to anti up. Nylander is on limited term contract. Their 1st round pick will be a late rounder. They have prospects to dangle. The offer may be mega to some eyes but Toronto is a very good team and Arizona holds the cards here.

I can see it looking like
Nylander, Sandin, a 2023 1st, and 2 prospects
for Chychryn and a 2023 3rd or 4th

**No salary retention by Toronto on Nylander**

- M*A*S*H

Not sure why Chychryn is so over rated. That would be a massive haul. Once Flames extend Weegar they would be better of with Nylander & a 2nd for Hanafin & they gain almost 2.0 mill in cap space. Both players have 2 years left & would fit in Leafs window.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: Yeah well that's like your opinion man, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Aug 11 @ 12:20 PM ET
What say you?!
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Aug 11 @ 12:20 PM ET
If I'm AZ .. the ask / deal is Willy and Knies...for Chychrun.

No way the Leafers do that though... they'd be gettng robbed.
SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

Aug 11 @ 12:21 PM ET
What say you?!
- glove_was_stuck


AYE!!!
Hatt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2020

Aug 11 @ 12:29 PM ET
Nylander is much better player then Chychrun and his contract great. Chychrun is so overrated and Nylander is so underrated, because he’s a leaf, it’s ridiculous. Chychrun doesn’t get you Nylander without an add by phoenix. I’m sure we’ll read lot’s of stupid comments from people that don’t watch hockey but hate the leafs. Chychrun is the Coyotes only option on D and is the main reason he gets the attention. He skates well, great shot, but no defence of awareness and tries to do to much. If Nylander wasn’t a leaf he’d be talked about much differently then he is.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Aug 11 @ 12:30 PM ET
"but talking to another GM I am now convinced"

No NHL GM knows who you are never mind reaching out to you giving you the inside scoop
dothedougie
Boston Bruins
Location: DISCLAIMER: HEAVY SARCASM FILTER, CO
Joined: 10.24.2013

Aug 11 @ 12:38 PM ET
"but talking to another GM I am now convinced"

No NHL GM knows who you are never mind reaching out to you giving you the inside scoop

- Vukota



I mean, armchair GM's count.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: Yeah well that's like your opinion man, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Aug 11 @ 12:41 PM ET
AYE!!!
- SRam19


GARRR
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Aug 11 @ 12:41 PM ET
Are you guys nuts?
Nylander, a 1st and 2 prospects for Chychrun?
That's a big overpayment.
Willie for Chychrun 1 for 1.
GTFO of here with this plus a 1st and 2 prospects BS.
Maybe a mid round pick thats it.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: Yeah well that's like your opinion man, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Aug 11 @ 12:42 PM ET
Lenher out for the season

CaP SeRcUmVenShUn

forbetterorWORSE
Ottawa Senators
Location: Riverview, NB
Joined: 06.12.2009

Aug 11 @ 12:46 PM ET
Nylander is much better player then Chychrun and his contract great. Chychrun is so overrated and Nylander is so underrated, because he’s a leaf, it’s ridiculous. Chychrun doesn’t get you Nylander without an add by phoenix. I’m sure we’ll read lot’s of stupid comments from people that don’t watch hockey but hate the leafs. Chychrun is the Coyotes only option on D and is the main reason he gets the attention. He skates well, great shot, but no defence of awareness and tries to do to much. If Nylander wasn’t a leaf he’d be talked about much differently then he is.
- Hatt

Exactly, no way Leafs give Willy Styles without getting back Chychrun ++.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Aug 11 @ 12:52 PM ET
Not sure why Chychryn is so over rated. That would be a massive haul. Once Flames extend Weegar they would be better of with Nylander & a 2nd for Hanafin & they gain almost 2.0 mill in cap space. Both players have 2 years left & would fit in Leafs window.
- Kevin R

that would be Nylander for Hanafin straight up.

IMO
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Aug 11 @ 12:54 PM ET
I mean, armchair GM's count.
- dothedougie

13sundin13
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 11 @ 12:54 PM ET
Toronto will need to anti up. Nylander is on limited term contract. Their 1st round pick will be a late rounder. They have prospects to dangle. The offer may be mega to some eyes but Toronto is a very good team and Arizona holds the cards here.

I can see it looking like
Nylander, Sandin, a 2023 1st, and 2 prospects
for Chychryn and a 2023 3rd or 4th

**No salary retention by Toronto on Nylander**

- M*A*S*H

Horrible overpay for Chychryn.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Aug 11 @ 1:00 PM ET
Horrible overpay for Chychryn.
- 13sundin13


Any other reports we have read say Yotes are only interested in picks and prospects. Something could work if a 3rd team was involved but why would the Bolts have any interest in Nylander when they are in full tanking mode and have no interest in winning any games until the Bedard is taking a regular shift.
Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Sabres VERY Much in Hellebuyck Hearing they are the closest treat to getting a deal…bu a mile., CA
Joined: 06.06.2013

Aug 11 @ 1:04 PM ET
Other than the fact that Nylander+ is objectively an overpay...the Yotes don't want Nylander. He's 26, in his prime, and there is zero way he'd sign there when he hits UFA at ~29. He also makes AZ better (marginally) now. AZ wants to stink.

A first and a prospect along with Nylander is really just a salary dump to make the deal for Chychrun work. Why not Kerfoot+picks (1st and 2nd) and prospect (Robertson, rights to Knies, or ???)? Sure, that's a depth hit in the bottom 6 but the Leafs would keep Nylander, get Chychrun, and AZ would get a decent haul. As to the last point, not sure the market for Chychrun is really what AZ thinks it is.
dothedougie
Boston Bruins
Location: DISCLAIMER: HEAVY SARCASM FILTER, CO
Joined: 10.24.2013

Aug 11 @ 1:04 PM ET
Lenher out for the season

CaP SeRcUmVenShUn


- glove_was_stuck






ifiwasgm
Joined: 11.10.2014

Aug 11 @ 1:38 PM ET
Nylander is much better player then Chychrun and his contract great. Chychrun is so overrated and Nylander is so underrated, because he’s a leaf, it’s ridiculous. Chychrun doesn’t get you Nylander without an add by phoenix. I’m sure we’ll read lot’s of stupid comments from people that don’t watch hockey but hate the leafs. Chychrun is the Coyotes only option on D and is the main reason he gets the attention. He skates well, great shot, but no defence of awareness and tries to do to much. If Nylander wasn’t a leaf he’d be talked about much differently then he is.
- Hatt

The major difference is contract, not the players. Chychrun is on an incredibly good contract
broncohorvath
Joined: 12.20.2012

Aug 11 @ 1:44 PM ET
If the Leafs make that move...........they are just plain STUPID. But there is a lot of STUPID going around in the world. And there is no cure for STUPID
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Aug 11 @ 1:48 PM ET
If the Leafs make that move...........they are just plain STUPID. But there is a lot of STUPID going around in the world. And there is no cure for STUPID
- broncohorvath


If anybody in this world would know its facking you
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Aug 11 @ 2:12 PM ET
If the Leafs make that move...........they are just plain STUPID. But there is a lot of STUPID going around in the world. And there is no cure for STUPID
- broncohorvath

glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: Yeah well that's like your opinion man, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Aug 11 @ 2:46 PM ET
If the Leafs make that move...........they are just plain STUPID. But there is a lot of STUPID going around in the world. And there is no cure for STUPID
- broncohorvath




13sundin13
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 11 @ 2:48 PM ET
Any other reports we have read say Yotes are only interested in picks and prospects. Something could work if a 3rd team was involved but why would the Bolts have any interest in Nylander when they are in full tanking mode and have no interest in winning any games until the Bedard is taking a regular shift.
- spatso

Yeah that's why I dont think it works with Nylander, something along the lines of Sandin, Robertson/Knies, a 1st with Kerfoot to make the salaries work makes more sense. Other teams could probably offer better deals, the Leafs just don't have any top end blue chip prospects that would be a lock to make the deal work.
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